are disembodied selves, so proud that they fail to see the indispensability of caring for their most familiar physical dwellings. Thus, bodies and body image are clearly gender-specific issues for ministers working with men. RESISTING HELP Because men are often emotionally repressed and trained not to care about their physical selves, getting them to ministers who might provide some help and support in their confusion or crisis can be difficult. Many men assume that counseling is a waste of time